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President trump will sit down with mueller because he has said he wants to, do you think it makes it more or less likely? >> well, i think the finding of his legal representation may make it more likely that he's going to have to sit down and mueller will make that decision, not donald trump. he has one option if he doesn't want to testify. that's the fifth amendment. if he tells him he's going to take the fifth, it's certainly going to be a political disaster for him. but other than firing, as carl suggested, he doesn't have a lot of options at this point. those subpoenas are real, and they c...

Going, and it has all along, we all know that. so i think as a courtesy, he would not ignore him. he wouldn't care one way or another, if trump wants to take the fifth, he will go forward and build a really powerful case. >> unless you want to weigh in on that, i have another question. did you want to say something on that, phil? >> a quick comment. let's flip it. let's say robert mueller gets in front of a microphone or a court and says, there is a question about inappropriate contacts between the trump campaign and the russians and i never spoke to the president. >> that doesn't sounds too g...

Justice department the president and special republicans have been pushing for a special counsel to investigate these claims, will this appointment satisfy them, you think, though? >> it's a rare moment where you really [ bleep ] me off. politicians and dictatorships decide when their political opponents get investigated. the prosecutor should be deciding when somebody is investigated in this country. not republicans or democrats who say my rivals should be investigated. i think what the attorney general said here was, i'm under a lot of political pressure. i'm not going to knuckle under that ...

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Gates was a very good deal, and it had to be more than just nailing his former partner, manafort. so i think he's given them a lot of information and he has a lot of information and he's an invaluable witness and could change the whole dynamics of the case. >> phillip, mueller and his team, they didn't need rick gates to flip on his boss, paul manafort, but instead wanted information from him about contacts with russians and potential collusion. what does that tell you? >> a couple things. one is at a personal level, i spent four and a half years working beside robert mueller. he's a linear gu...