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Assurance that was the right approach. that's not the view of everybody in president trump's circle. some think that wall is so visceral, so visual, that you can't abandon that for fear of losing the support of those people who really did, in fact, expect him to build one. >> jeff, time to bring you in again, white house correspondent with reuters, you were just at the south lawn and the president was fielding questions from reporters. what are your main takeaways about what he spoke about. you asked what a compromise would look like, right? >> i did. he didn't really have any spi s specifics ...

Ineffective? >> congressman will herd is to whom you refer. >> of course. >> i have the privilege to serve on the intelligence committee with him. he is a former covert cia agent. it's not just will. i'm not aware of a member of the congress, liberal or conservative, who represents a border community who believes that wall is a solution to border security. in fact what they almost universally say, it's a fifth century, medieval solution in search of a 21st century problem i spoke with peter baker, you may have heard the conversation, and "new york times" correspondent, co-authored the article ...

Border involving a barrier or a wall or whatever it is the he want to call it. democrats feel as though at this moment in time, alex, they are holding all the cards in this negotiation. they are not inclined to compromise or come to the president's position or give any money to this whatsoever. the game of chicken right now is, democrats keeping the pressure on. they're going to be putting spending bills on the floor again this week to send over to the senate, keeping pressure on senate republicans to see if they will jump ship, abandon their leadership, abandon the president on this issue and...

Lottery, and right now graham focused on tps and daca for border security. so i think, you know, the small pieces might be a start. i think it's still going to be very tricky, but taking it piece by piece might be our best chance at getting some sort of resolution when it comes to immigration. >> danny, as you know, as we have seen executive orders and different pieces of immigration, legislation, it has not been easy in terms of the process, in terms of bringing what is the new policy to action. we've seen that just within the last two years. in this case we talked about the bridge act. we're...

Of the trump presidency and the trump world view. we lose sight of it in this petty quarrels over things like $6 billion for a wall. the issue is far bigger than that and goes to the heart of the american tradition and who we are to be as a people. >> where are we in that? are we too much as what allan is saying, worried about a very small detail and there's a bigger thing at discussion right now as we move into a new congress? >> i think allan is absolutely right in what he is saying. this is keeping a certain demographic of people out of the country. that's why you heard the president call t...