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Shake this one loose. the president is not budges or giving any indication publicly. >> it's important to note this shut down is not like other shutdowns we have seen over covered. usually when an administration goes into a shut down, they have a strategy. some plan. some idea of what they want to get out of it and how. there is no indication that president trump has any of that. it doesn't seem like the officials or the democrats know what it is. basically the shut down will end when the president is satisfied he can go back to his base and say he fought as hard as he possibly could for the w...

Gets money to either renovate or build parts of that wall. he also talked a bit about the controversy over the last week over what has been reported to be his thoughts about potentially firing the fed chairman. that reporting sent markets into a tail spin and started to worry that president trump was delving into uncharted territories and digging into the activities of the fed. steve mnuchin tried to wall markets by calling up the big banks and causing more concern by asking about liquidity and whether or not they had enough money to lend to people and president trump was asked whether or not ...

That's the unpredictability and we see it with the economy and that's why everyone is so rattled. it's getting inside that mind that is a really interesting and unpredictable place to be. >> interesting is one word for it. josh was talking about whatever the president wants to call it in terms of the wall. the way he is talking about it confusi conbfusions me a bit. he said it's a fence or whatever you want to call it today. nancy pelosi spoke with "usa today" and the way she puts it, she puts it this way. we will build a wall with cement and mexico is going to pay for it. while he backed off ...

We heard from the president that he said he wants his goal to have the wall done or renovated or however he put it, by election time. >> when donald trump has a gaffe, that's when he is telling the truth. this is all about reelection politics. this is not about interpreting the zeitgeist of what his base wants or not about coming to the middle. this will be resolved when a republican leadership is the character. the patriotism to stand up and demand donald trump not put laura inge ham ahead of the country. >> you say agree to the deal and jam him especially? unless you think you would go along...

For democrats? >> this is right now a great spot for both sides in order to come to the middle. a beaded curtain may not be a bad idea. >> i love your optimism on this christmas day. >> add to the list of different descriptions of the big beautiful wall. slats come to mind as well. the reality is, this president realizes once the democrats take over the house, there is virtually zero chance he will be able to follow-through on his basic major promise to his base which was build a wall and mexico will pay for it. the reality is he has to show progress. the best advice that he should take is tha...