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Headline from the president. i got to say conventional wisdom says the government shutdown is toxic politics for republicans but this president has always turned conventional wisdom on its ear. i think there's some political benefit to tell the american voters take a stand for something and you stand for something as important as border security, national security, enforcing immigration laws and one other thing, keep your promises, this president is trying to keep his promise and you can't get cooperation from the house, democrats won't do anything for him so maybe using this leverage is a goo...

That's important because immigration was a real problem in 2007. you are not woke. stay woke. that is so 2007. are you asleep question works day woke. >> tucker: so the woke position would be build a wall, make america great again. >> that is a distraction. the wall is not needed. immigration is a big problem in 2007, it does not one today. that is a distraction. the conditions that people are living under, the detention centers, that is a real problem. stay woke. stay focused. keep thinking on what really matters. >> tucker: who decides? there are some subjective elements to this. someone wil...

Immigration was a real problem in 2007. you are not not woke. stay woke. that is so 2007. are you asleep? >> tucker: so the woke position would be build a wall, make america great again? >> that is a distraction. the wall is not needed. immigration was a big problem in 2007, it is not one today. that is a distraction. the conditions that people are living under, the detention stay focused. >> tucker: who decides? there are some subjective is there a wore counsel? >> that would be reality.

Borders, you don't have a country. you don't have a y country. [chanting "build a wall"] it's happening. oh, it's not happening. it's not "build the wall," we are fixing the wall, we are building the wall in san diego, it's incredible how no one wants the wall until it's in their backyard. you mind building must? they didn't like people walking across their front lawns in san diego. soeg we are building the wall, fixing the wall, spending a lot of money, and we are going for more, and we'll get it done. but democrats, they want open borders and they don't mind crime. think of it.

Together. >> together. >> that would be the big difference. so he would like to be able to say, i haven't caved. i haven't backed down. i'm still sticking with my zero tolerance policy but, in fact, of course, he is, because he thought he would be able to use this as a way to get congress to do everything he wanted, including build a wall and it kind of blew up in his face, to be honest about it. >> so here's new information. let me throw this at you. we are getting a source familiar with this executive order says it will not end, which is precisely what you have been saying. it will be more n...