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United states of america to be. and the most important thing we need to do is engage the world, not fight with them over trade, not yell and scream at them, not act unilaterally, not withdraw from the paris accord, you know, like we did, not, you know, starting with the sanctions against china, without having the rest of the world to go unilaterally on iran. all that does is isolate us, and america cannot build a wall around itself. the rest of the world in the western part of the world depends on us and our values and being the strong leader. and i don't want to see us retreat. and i hope joh...

London, where steve bannon and the mercers, mr. wiley, the so-called whistleblower, there was a discussion how to understand american voters and persuade american voters. at that time there was no donald trump campaign, but they started testing themes like "drain the swamp" and "build a wall" that became donald trump's message. in the story, it is interesting to see how cambridge analytica and the mercers and steve bannon came up with the themes that later became donald trump. >> let me play you part of the channel 4 undercover video series. willen with me. >> in america, they have independent...

>> this is not a possibility. this is political theater that is being used to frame the debate. it's essentially a big lie. we have seen this before trump administration build a wall. mexico is going to pay for it send in the troops. deport violent criminals. drain the swamp. none of this is actually happening when you look at the facts here. the statements they just prey on, they prey on his base because they know that there is nothing being done in washington on these very important issues. >> laura: joe, when you say the president hasn't done that, i mean, yes, they have. i mean, the presid...

>> this is not a possibility. this is political theater that is being used to frame the debate. it's essentially a big lie. we have seen this before trump administration build a wall. mexico is going to pay for it send in the troops. deport violent criminals. drain the swamp. none of this is actually happening when you look at the facts here. the statements they just prey on, they prey on his base because they know that there is nothing being done in washington on these very important issues. >> laura: joe, when you say the president hasn't done that, i mean, yes, they have. i mean, the presid...

Playing games. the only thing i hate, not to be politically correct, but the only thing these gang members understand, i hate to say it, they're not interested in genius. they're interested in somebody that's tougher than them. we have the toughest people you have ever seen, and they went out to long island and they grabbed them by the neck and put them in the patty wagon. we're cleaning out. we're doing it. build that wall! build that wall! build that wall! build that wall! >> we are building the wall. 1 100%. 100%. 100% [ applause ] >> you know, the president of the mexico, which i think i...