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When we open our arms more widely and embraced the free exchange of people and ideas and i think what the president was saying there in indiana that we are going build a wall literally or not because that's the only way to preserve a way of life that's familiar to those white working class voters. >> jon, you mentioned the 1950s, you said the mccartney era feels most of whthe era we are in now. >> whhis own lawyer was also donald trump's lawyer admitted that mccarthy bought -- he understood the media of the day and how to deal with wire

If we don't give them the wall, they're going to be putting a lot of pressure on governor moonbeam in california. right? but you know what i did? something i would normally not do which means in life, i'm getting nicer as i get older. i said let's build a wall for san diego. >> julie: president trump insisting on the need for a wall in southern california during a campaign style rally in indiana last night. my next guest is a republican looking to unseat democratic san diego congresswoman susan davis. she's also the youngest person running for congress in 2018. republican candidate morgan mert...

Scandals. >> how great is coach bobby knight? we love our coach. remember, he came in? he called me before i was running. i didn't know him, they said bobby knight's on the phone. i said what does he want with me? i never announced. i was thinking. but i guess he read and he said, mr. trump, i hope you're going to run. >> and just like the good old days the president told lies about building a wall on the southern border. >> san diego wants the wall. and i said to my people, here's the bad news, if we give them the wall, we don't have an advocate. if we don't give them the wall they're going t...

I was thinking. but i guess he read and he said, mr. trump, i hope you're going to run. >> and just like the good old days the president told lies about building a wall on the southern border. >> san diego wants the wall. and i said to my people, here's the bad news, if we give them the wall, we don't have an advocate. if we don't give them the wall they're going to be putting a lot of pressure on governor moon beam in california, right? i said let's build a wall for san diego. so we're building them the wall. i shouldn't have done it. >> they're not building the wall. they're repairing the wa...

>> when you talk about cultu culturally, the fact you have municipalities and now an entire state that is basically giving the middle finger to the rule of law like this, this was a big part of the reason why president trump won in 2016. >> honestly, and anderson, i'm sorry to belabor this, i don't believe this is a conversation about the rule of law at all. i think what he's able to do with his immigration language, his build a wall language, with his kick them out, this breeding contempt language, it all ties in together, because he's doing is, he's talking about one of the glaring issues we...