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>> what do you imagine are the next steps if the president does invoke this legal authority many think is a dubious constitutionality? >> it's certainly dubious. i think the supreme court has we've already talked about whether the president can declare a emergency. they'll say if there's an emergency, maybe he should have called it months agobut he coops waiting and tries to use it as a leverage. he didn't get the money on the wall he wanted. he didn't even get that close so now he wants to use that because he's obsessed at this 13th century called a wall. >> what do you think the -- i want to...

The gap will be filled in. so the section of wall took ten years to complete. >> i guess the first question is having gone along the entire edge of this border in texas, what do you think of it being an emergency? >> reporter: there's no state of emergency -- for example the central processing center. 1500 people are packed in there. it is attica pasty. so it's a facility jacob visited. there are still children in cages in the facility. they're meant to hold 15 people. there are 30 people jammed in shoulder to shoulder. we saw young girls crying and shaking and praying. we asked an official fr...

Is that your position? >> we want to have sensible border security where we balance the trade and truism with border security. i liver on the border. i know what the border is. i don't go in for a few min say i know the border better. if you want to stop drugs, most drugs come through ports of entree. soyou build a wall, it doesn't stop the drugs coming through our ports. you got to be smart. folking on the ports of entree, cay nine personnel. in 2001 border putroel apprehended 1.6 million individuals. last year? 303,000 individuals. and if you want to look at most of the people here, 67% are ...

Emergency. they have driven across the border to see what is really happening here. we begin with cal perry in san beneato o. cal. >> reporter: chris, the debate over the border and a wall may seem like politics unwashington d.c. but in texas it's a way of luf. the border between texas and mexico stretches from bustling cities to tiny towns, over mountains and along the rio grand. from the heart of the country all the way to the gulf. we drove the entire length of the border, starting in the sit a of el paso. 40 minutes outside of town as the terrain turns to desert, the border wall ends, just...

Population greater than 500,000, have been for many years. a physical structure like a fence is part of, you know, control of the borders, which we need. the real root problem is we're dealing with the symptoms of a root problem and that's lack of migration, immigration reform. nobody has shown fortitude on either side of the isle. so both are culpable and something has to be done. we're doing dacas, dreamers, those that are already here and what we're doing out of central america. >> we should note there was a deal on the table back in march of -- >> $25 billion. >> $25 billion for the wall t...