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There at 30,000 feet. in that case you're talking about something like the buk system, which is so powerful and so well targeted it can reach all the way up there and take out almost anything. look at the range of that. it can be tremendously destructive. it has, interestingly enough, limitations for all its strength. a system really needs a government to buy it, support it and make it operate. the troops running it have to have a high degree of train. thirdly, all of that makes tracking possible. we're watching it right now. when you fire something as powerful as this, it's tracked around the...

Buk system back across the border to russia and the whole investigation remains murky and the russian will bluster and this is their game since february 28th, the take over of crimia and it doesn't end. >> you say there is real danger of outright war with russia and uran. if that happens ukraine loses. >> yes, ukraine would lose, but the damage that would be caused by that war is extreme. it is really, really extreme. and even if ukraine loses the war, the russian federation would look at a counter insurgent on ukrainian territory for years and decades to come. it would be a catastrophic

Officials say a buk system was smuggled into ukraine prior to flight 17 being shot down. the official say they believe it was moved back to russia after the attack. they say they have evidence that it was moved back over the russian border in the past day or so. the implication is that russia is trying to tamper with the evidence. the buk missile system is something we've been hearing about over the past couple days. tom foreman is in washington to take a look at what it is. what is the buk? it is spelled b-u-k. what is it capable of? >> it is a four-man unl. it has four ready to fire missiles...

The ukrainian aviation dispatcher send a passenger flight to an area of military clashes? an area which was being used for carrying out strikes against civilian targets against others? >> reporter: there are two pieces of evidence, hala, the ukrainians have pointed to which suggest russian involvement in which the u.s. has latched onto. one of these is intercepted audio recordings which suggest pro-russian militants with the help of russian expertise were somehow being trained to use surface-to-air missiles, and secondly the buk system missing one missile going back over the russian border. no...

I disagree with professor cohen and agree with bill richardson. i think putin doesn't care really about public opinion. what he is saying is like the 13th chime of a clock. it's not only false in and of itself, it calls into question everything from the same source. >> you want to respond? >> but you're not saying you don't think separatists, and when we say separatists, chris cuomo pointed out there have r so many different factions. you're not saying that it wasn't rebels. what are you saying? >> i'm saying i don't know what the likelihood. the likelihood is one of the rebel militias got aho...