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Every step he could to slow down the process of getting the action on the patriot act, those who stand up for things like the second amendment relating to the possession of american firearms and that kind of sensibility, they should also be as concerned about the fourth amendment. the government's inability to illegally search your property to enter your home and do those sorts of things. this is a passionate thing for a presidential candidate and time when you sometimes get the unusual alliance of a libertarian conservative with some on the far left who also don't like bulk collection of data...

Came out and the government said 52 people have been captured through this collection of records. when the privacy committee looked at in the and then when the senate committee looked at this they found nobody that was actually captured by the bulk collection of records. >> so with me now to talk about this and more "the new york times" op-ed columnist and a democratic strategist. welcome to both of you. jeff is with me too. rand paul does not like nsa snooping into phone records so he'll filibuster that part of the patriot act when it is up for vote at the end of the month. will that register...

Expire. and there is a vigorous debate in congress right now over whether to renew them. especially after the program was ruled illegal by a federal court earlier this month. last week the house voted overwhelmingly to end the bulk collection of phone data records. under the bill the house passed, the usa freedom act, phone records will be held by the phone companies and the nsa will have to obtain a warrant each time it wants to access those records. now it is up to the senate to debate the program. although he is against the usa freedom act and earlier tried to prevent the vote mitch mcconne...

When the floor allows you to come. so whether that happens or not i will filibuster the patriot act and i will do everything i can to try to adhere to the courts. the courts have now said the bulk collection of records is illegal, they should stop immediately. >> if you're allowed to filibuster you plan to talk for 13 hours or whatever it takes. >> well nobody can predict how long you can talk but i plan on doing everything humanly possible to try to stop the patriot act. >> we had your lovely wife kelly, on "new day" a month ago. and somehow the subject of your hair came up. >> oh no. >> yes....

Information given to you by people who believe in this bulk collection of records. so you're only getting one side. we don't get a two-sided evaluation of any of this. on the intelligence committees in recent history ron widen has been a champion for privacy and the bill of rights. there have been very few others that i think have a balanced or nuanced approach as far as protecting the individual's right to privacy. >> let me ask you the question from the flip side. that is do you know any innocent americans or know of any innocent americans caught up in the dragnet of phone record collection?...