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The founding fathers would be astounded to see what nsa and others are doing. you know, it's not snowden. in a way he's irrelevant on this. it's a question of how well this has been looked at and how much the american public knows about it. i was heartened by an editorial in the "new york times" today who strongly recommends nsa as republican and the president's panel on this. a very good panel recommends the same thing. >> but the panel wants to allow the bulk collection of our meta data with some control. the government ought not to be able to stockpile it, a third party ought to have a crac...

Exemption, they're going to -- they don't really have a lot of options. the insurance companies aren't going to give you back your old policy. the obamacare policies are too expensive for a lot of these people, and so now you have the responsible people who had insurance, not having insurance? how is that helpful and how is that part of insuring the people had health insurance? >> we can keep talking about this, and we will, but i want to talk about the other big story and that is the growing call for restrictions on nsa surveillance of americans. we had a federal district judge who said that ...

It's time for "reliable sources." good morning. welcome to a freakishly warm washington. there were a lot of big stories this week. congress passed a budget. the stock market reached record highs, a roof collapse on a packed london theater, a federal judge said nsa's bulk collection of our telephone records was likely unconstitutional and the government continued to stone wall reporters who keep asking why the pentagon launched a drone strike that killed innocent people in yemen. those stories barely stood a chance against this. >> "duck dynasty" star phil robertson making comments.

Has been looked at and how much the american public knows about it. i was heartened by an editorial in the "new york times" today who strongly recommends nsa as a republican and the president's panel on this. a very good panel recommends the same thing. >> but the panel wants to allow the bulk collection of our meta data with some control. the government ought not to be able to stockpile it, a third party ought to have a crack at it? >> they said they will send it to the senate judiciary committee in a few weeks. but there have been problems, and one of the reasons the big companies, yahoo, go...

Exemption, they're going to -- they don't really have a lot of options. the insurance companies aren't going to give you back your old policy. the obamacare policies are too expensive for a lot of these people, and so now you have the responsible people who had insurance, not having insurance? how is that helpful and how is that part of insuring the people had health insurance? >> we can keep talking about this, and we will, but i want to talk about the other big story and that is the growing call for restrictions on nsa surveillance of americans. we had a federal district judge who said that ...