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Obama, "for all that beau biden achieved in his life nothing made him prouder, nothing made him happier, nothing claimed a fuller focus of his love and devotion than his family. just like his dad." >> we're going to take a pause. can we bring up that live picture of the senate floor? here's what we just learned. it will lapse at 8:00 p.m. eastern. even though the debate is going on and the cloture vote is open. 77 votes to 17. it's now passed the senate. it needs to go back to the house. they are not going to reconvene tonight and that is why the bulk data collection of americans, their phone ...

>> you terrorists like al-qaeda and isil will not suddenly stop fighting us. >> president obama if his weekly address urging congress to pass compromise legislation to keep the n.s.a.'s domestic surveillance program going. we are back with the panel. brit not only has rand paul promised to force the expiration his words, of the bulk data collection for a few days through parliamentary maneuvers, this week he also blamed the creation of isis on republicans. take a look. >> isis exists and grew stronger because of the hawks in our party who gave arms which were mostly snatched up by isis. they w...

>> these are parts of a thread, parts of a fabric. none of these are a silver bullet. this is the problem people like me have explaining this to the american people. intelligence is fundamentally boring. it's not what you see on evening television. it's piece by piece, thread by thread. you're giving up threads. it may not make a difference for a while. then again, it might. over the longer term, i'm willing to wager, chris, it will, indeed, make a difference. as you pointed out in your setup, we're more at risk today from internal actors than we have been at any time since 9/11. >> there seem...

Course they are posturing. that's what we do with this. the part i think interesting, did you notice the tone of those administration comments from the president and brennan and others? they want to play the somber grownups here just concerned about the security of the nation amid this political squabbling by the other side. that's exactly the tone the dems and as and as minute station want to put forward. they are not the ones who can't agree. >> brian, you want to weigh in there? >> the white house always wants to seem above politics. the fact is the release of this information about the sor...

Little bit? we probably are. but if you were to poll most americans, i think they would rather overreach just a little bit here to ensure we don't see the coordinated attacks we've seen in some of the places governor walker mentioned. >> no doubt about it, jeremy peters a new poll out talking about americans by a wide margin supporting drone warfare. americans want to be kept safe even if they sense there is a bit of an overreach. rand paul will have an interesting fight in his own party. >> he is. he's pretty much an island on this one. and he will not be letting up. we saw him of course last...