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Actor. >> the largest two term governor of the largest state. >> donald trump has built an extro extraordinary business empire where tractors in manhattan say he's only worth $5 billion instead of $9 billion. >> all i can say the the averages aren't the ajs and the guy is no longer dainty, period. >> okay. charlie, let me ask you this. i do not disagree with your theory here. do you think as i think when i sigh the trump crowds, he has a definite floor that he's not going to go below.

The harry reid that the public sees and quoted as saying, you know, that -- quote, the -- excuse me, reid is a master of that practices pale-faced bump kin from search light act. and it mask a ruthless and machiavellian politician. explain what you mean by that. >> i think just because of his appearance, steve, harry reid is easy to underestimate. doesn't have a booming voice, not a charismatic guy. but as jim manly well knows, even though he may not tell all, today harry reid behind the scenes is exactly as i described him. one of the reasons he's able to hold his caucus together is he's will...

If you're going to believe in democracy, you have to participate in it. and this is where we're getting into this period that you think the last year wutz tough, wait till the next year, because of all these natural divisions. i think egypt is a very pluralistic society in that they're a huge array and not even all the islamists are united. >> just lacks pluralism. that's the point i'm making. that's the problem. it's deeply pluralistic but it doesn't have a pluralistic effort. >> all these divisions i think will make the transition very difficult because it's not just who is ruling egypt but ...

Upcoming parliamentary elections. if you're going to believe in democracy, you have to participate in it. and this is where we're getting into this period that you think the last year wutz tough, wait till the next year, because of all these natural divisions. i think egypt is a very pluralistic society in that they're a huge array and not even all the islamists are united. >> just lacks pluralism. that's the point i'm making. that's the problem. it's deeply pluralistic but it doesn't have a pluralistic effort. >> all these divisions i think will make the transition very difficult because it's...