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What do you make of that? >> westminster dog show. i mean i don't know about you. i was switching back and forth. >> banana joe is pretty compelling. >> it really was. i was among those who was very unhappy that golden retriever has never won. possibly could have won had he not stopped for a drink of water. >> do you think this signals that people are less engaged and less interested because it's second term? they feel like they know what the president has in mind? >> i think that really people got such a negative view of government over the years. it's a sort of what ever attitude. >> we also...

Them. >> questions being raised. the cattle battles has been brought to a fiery front. harry reid yesterday was standard asked about it. he was silent until this point. this is about land and freedom. he said, look, this cattle battle is far from over. take a listen. >> he said it's not over. we can't have an american people that violate the law and walk away. it's not over. >> you sound just like harry reid, steve. >> thank you very much. >> we saw languishing, have to nod off in the middle of the sentence to be harry reid. >> he says it's not over. a member of bun di's family said we are not...