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Today? >> no. what he was is he is finding a middle ground. that's always difficult in america where we're so polarized. he has critics on the interventionist right. senator mccain has been speaking out aggressively on this thing, saying it's a bad idea to pull out of afghanistan, even though it's been 13 years and nearly 2,200 americans killed in combat there. and then you have others saying wait a minute, why you leaving almost 10,000 troops there at a cost of $20 billion a year. i think instead of hawk-dove, the dichotomy jim drew, to quote obama, smart versus dumb. he is calling for a ligh...

Fact that, you know, lots of people in europe, especially leaders, are not cutting the u.s. as much slack as they might have done in the past. partly, they're saying, because the u.s. under the obama administration, is backing off a lot of the burden sharing, a lot of the heavy lifting that traditionally the u.s. has done in support of its allies over the past. >> because of the fallout, bought of the anger amongst the world leaders, julian, do you think someone's head should roll over this? >> well, we're going to see what the administration does. i think two things to remember. president oba...

Option that in some way the american taxpayer could back stop europe to prevent that crisis from coming closer to us. is that even a possibility? >> no, i don't think it's a possibility in an out right way. i do think that what europe is looking at right now more immediately is some kind of burden sharing. basically all of europe kind of pulling its resources and essentially saying, you know, the debt of the least of our neighbors is actually our debt if you're a richer country. between the european central bank which has the ability to print money and purchase debt fit so chooses along with t...

Pakistani border. >> how hard when you look at the costs and part of this nato conference is, frankly, it's not officially a donor conference, but it's a, try to convince the frances of the world, holnd sla saying, can you at least write a check? the hard part, getting kacongre to go along. >> one of the things being talked about at the nato summit that's very important to us is how we do a better job of coordinating and cooperating with resources. what's called burden sharing. they reached some agreements on that yesterday that i think are important. i met yesterday with the -- >> do you thin...

our list. >> you tie for number one on my list. how about poppy harlow with kiss. that's our era! it's the top of the hour. 9:00 on the east coast and after 42 years, libyans awaken this morning to a new beginning free of a murderous tyrant. an ambassador for libya's transitional government says the death of gadhafi means a black era has come to an end forever and across the country, libyans celebrate under to the morni in hours firing off guns and blasting off car horns. dna tests confirm the corpse was, indeed, gadhafi and the international criminal court is allowing his burial i...