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Ba halba halbach. it was steven avery that killed teresa halbach. he had the motive means and opportunity. he was obsessed with her calling for her repeatedly to come and photograph vehicles at his junkyard. during his 18 year incarceration he talked of a dream torture chamber to rape, torture and murder women. the best way to get rid of the body? burn it. maybe he learned that after dousing the family cat in gasoline throwing it into a fire and killing it. afterward he was convicted of animal cruelty. he was a career felon convicted of burglary as well as force ago woman off the road pointing...

>> ladies and gentlemen, i give you lucien greaves. >> let us always stand. this is a monument to them. this is a monument to you. >> this stuff has been pent up inside of us for a long time. but this is a moment to rip that veil open and say we're here. >> let them try to bomb it, burn it, and break it down. >> we claim our satanic status with pride and demand our rights are respected as well as anyone else's. >> it is done, hail satan. >> hail satan. >> this is baphomet. whatever you make of it, this statue means something to these

Cooper will be moderating that conversation. and now, bringing in our correspondent joe johns who is here in washington with us. and preview for us what the president is going to plan to announce? >> well, we don't know how far obviously, the administration is going to go with it, and we did hear from josh earnest that they are talking about threading the needle legally. so we know that the administration has expressed some interest in trying to expand the background checks for people trying to buy guns. one of the things that is apparently under consideration for cnn's reporting is executive ...

Outgun the american government, and you can do that all of the way up to the military assets the national guard and the fbi, and they won't be able to do that, and ted cruz is exactly right, it is illegal, and they should not be doing it, and they could do a violent response to this, but i think that they will try to reason and give the guys a chance to give up, but the idea that bundy is claiming that the government has no right is not true. under imminent domain, the government can take private property and reimburse the owners and say it is private property for the greater good, and the int...

That won't get completely tied up in the courts is an important consideration. because only so much time left in this presidential term. >> and he has a year left to go, and of course, if the president does sign this executive order and it is allowed to stand firmly by the courts, the new president, if it is a republican president can un-sign it on day one if he or she wants. joe, thank you very much. certainly not everybody is all that excited about the president's proposed plans, including my next guest, congressman john fleming from louisiana who is a member of the house armed services comm...