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Mueller's report all the more important because if it were obvious, if it were obvious on the face of it, then i'm sure chairman burr wouldn't have said that, therefore, of course, we don't know what robert mueller knows and that raises the stakes even more. >> we also don't know the full list of witnesses for the mueller investigation compared to the congressional investigation. there may be, in the words of senator burr, chairman burr, no direct evidence of collusion between president trump and the russians during the course of the campaign with some kind of criminal intent to collude. what ...

Gloria borger and security canadien tate ter mike rogers. chairman rogers, let me start with you because obviously president trump has called the whole issue of russian meddling in the election a hoax. i can't find any single other person in the trump administration who believes that. they all say it's real. and although chairman burr wouldn't touch it when asked about it by manu raju, they were very clear they think the intelligence community's conclusions were accurate. take a listen. i think there is general consensus among members and staff that we trust the conclusions of the ica. but w...