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Political work is like that, too. there's tough periods. >> this is one of them. i say to people, the last five years, we can't recover. the civil rights movement, if we start it from brown in 1954, and that is to ignore everything from before 1954, and that's e-will the, the last big civil rights period of the era is past. that's 15 years. we're talking about the last five years. how long it felt in 1963? how do you think it felt when the four girls were blown up in the church? there are all these moments, and i've said before that every major piece of civil rights legislation was proceeded b...

How so? >> yeah. a lot of people when they think civil rights they rightly think of the courts, the judicial system. they're probably thinking of the department of justice. but if you think about civil rights history for a minute, rosa parks, right? what touched off the montgomery busboy cot had to do with equitable access to transportation. go back further in our history in the late 19th century, that was about who gets to sit where on a train car and discrimination based on race. and what we're finding is that a lot of decisions that weren't originally thought of as racial justice decisions ...

We saw the busboy cot. so much at that time. and he marched with dr. king at the time when blacks were not allowed to stay at a hotel off the interstate or go to a restaurant. and he marched against those injustices. he wanted equality. he was important to the shift in the atmosphere. the shift in the law. so we received the civil rights act and this group of young black men dared to be different. dared to go out and challenge the system. just after they received the civil rights act. john lewis did this against the will of his mother. she didn't want him to march. if black people at the time ...

Here in atlanta, a revered u.s. civil rights leader has died at the age of 87 years old. juanita abernathy was the wife of ralph abernathy sr., co-founder of the american civil rights movement. she was a force in her own way. her family called her the last remaining person who was actively involved from day one of the montgomery busboy cot and the civil rights movement. she and her husband worked side-by-side, with civil rights legend, dr. martin luther king jr. the fight for civil rights continues to this day, surely, as questions are now being raised about black referees in the top four di...

Boy, it called him son, it hearkens to language that is probably the most degrading term you can use to describe any african-american male. my father, my grandfather, my uncle, cornell west can tell you about it. even cory booker can tell you about the generations of african-american men who have been called down and been degraded by the term boy. for vice-president biden to not recognize that in context is a problem. but even more importantly, i think when you invoke someone like senator easterland who said in opposition to the busboy cot, he said in every stage of the bus boycott, we have be...