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In the trump white house, that means he'll be seen as a bush guy. that has become something negative to this president in a lot of circumstances. we have the history of what he went through last time. he was picked in 2003. his nomination was essentially iced because it was so controversial. for three solid years, he didn't get a successful hearing until 2006. it was very contentious. he was described as unqualified, one of the most partisan nominees. of the era, if not ever. it was a hard thing for him to get confirmed a dozen years ago. how does that carry forward? >> it carries forward from...

But with no other president picking him, would your first concern be that maybe he was picking him because he thought he wouldn't indict him. >> does the phrase judge shopping come to mind? he's selecting the decisive vote that will rule on whether he has to respond to a subpoena or not. these are near term concerns. within this year the court may have to rule on whether he has to be questioned by mueller. these are very near term questions. >> judge cavanagh was initially nominated by george w. bush. in the trump white house, that means he'll be seen as a bush guy. that has become something n...

Would your first concern be that maybe he was picking him because he thought he wouldn't indict him. >> he's selecting the decisive vote. these are near term concerns. within this year the court may have to rule on whether he has to be questioned by mueller. these are very near term questions. >> judge cavanagh was initially nominated by george w. bush. that means that he'll be seen as a bush guy and that has become something negative to this president in a lot of circumstances. we have the history of what he went through. he was picked in 2003. his nomination was essentially iced because it w...

President can't resist the reality show u frame for something as serious as this. kavanaugh is using his experience against him. we all get the risk of having a long record, but usually it's good for this. the downside is that he is a bush guy. a big defender of him. a real solid credential make it's a big lift for the president. >> joan, you do so much reporting for this. if you had to put your chipped in one basket, what would it be? >> it's funny you say that. i was thinking about what a past

Just from the hard left. i don't think trump is going to do it. it's not in his interest. it's going to look terrible. all we sit here and talk about is trump going to fire mueller over and over again. republicans keep say don't do it. he shouldn'he should let the gus work and move on. >> laura: this is the fantasy of the democrats desperate for some piece of news good for them. middle of the night he does saturday night massacre on mueller, richard? go ahead. >> if trump fires mueller, the least of his problems. >> laura: he is not going to fire mueller. >> least of his problem is how much ho...