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>> yeah, it was frustrating but it made me do even more, you know, that's why i wanted to shoot jesse jackson the most. in chicago, went to bush headquarters up there. evidently i might have been a little too honest. i looked and saw a car behind me. and i said, it looks like that dude is following me in that car. unmarked police car. i'm going to take the next right, if he takes a right too. then he's following. i took the next right. sure enough, he took a right, too. kept ongoing. i thought someone is tailing me here. i better get out of the tail. >> the paranoia really in a way is very jus...

I liked his passion, leadership, vision for the future. >> you just made a bunch of people very upset down in bush headquarters. more switched. why? >> i think the biggest reason is that he showed energy. he showed charisma. he had ability to connect. carson is a great guy but just so slow. and quiet and that appeals to a certain group. likeñi theñi older people. >> so let me ask you about -- a show of hands. some of you, i'm not going to take the bait. some of you turned away from carson and turned to others. why? >> i changed to cruz because he has a clear plan. his actions support what he...

I liked his passion, leadership, vision for the future. >> you just made a bunch of people very upset down in bush headquarters. more switched. why? >> i think the biggest reason is that he showed energy. he showed charisma. he had ability to connect. carson is a great guy but just so slow. and quiet and that appeals to a certain group. likeñi theñi older people. >> so let me ask you about -- a show of hands. some of you, i'm not going to take the bait. some of you turned away from carson and turned to others. why? >> i changed to cruz because he has a clear plan. his actions support what he...

Knew about it, but they wouldn't tell the media it's a national thing. >> that had to be frustrating. >> yeah, it was frustrating but it made me do even more, you know, that's why i wanted to shoot jesse jackson the most. in chicago, went to bush headquarters up there. evidently i might have been a little too honest. i looked and saw a car behind me. and i said, it looks like that dude is following me in that car. unmarked police car. i'm going to take the next right, if he takes a right too. then he's following. i took the next right. sure enough, he took a right, too. kept ongoing. i thought...

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