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The former bush nsc person who was on for sometime in the trump administration. they were alarmed. that's the only thing people thhere. without a transcript, you can't really test the proposition, who is alarmed about what. nor can you test motivation. he spoke out about this today. let's watch that actually. >> the testimony, if you actually believe we should treating this as grand jury testimony, you shouldn't be leaking and cherry picking any fact that you think can fit your narrative. chairman schiff, release the outranscripts. don't give me the grand jury b.s. because you are leaking any ...

Judge starr who would know some thing about impeachment that would be the show, because they know this advocates of the moments and the importance of what they are doing. it cries out for transparency in comparison to what we see with schiff.or >> laura: chad, are reporter on capitol hill is saying that who is formally with an nsc staff said there was concern and alarm about efforts to press you ukraine into investigating bide and that these alarms were raised with nsc lawyers. she testified for ten hours and her testimony is leaking out of what they claim is like a grand jury. do grand jury's...

Good judgment like this guy, judge starr who would know some thing about impeachment that would be the show, because they know this advocates of the moments and the importance of what they are doing. it cries out for transparency in comparison to what we see with schiff. >> laura: chadha, are reporter on capitol hill is saying that who is formally with an fce staff said there was concern and alarm about efforts to press you carried into investigating. these alarms were raised with nsc lawyers. she just five or ten hours and her testimony is leaking out of what they claim like a grand jury. do ...

Alarmed. the former bush nsc person who put doe mike was on for sometime in the trump administration. they were alarmed. that's the only thing people here. without a transcript, you can't really test the proselytization who is alarmed about why. nor can you test motivation. he spoke out about this today. let's watch that actually. >> the testimony, if you actually believe we should treating this as grand jury testimony, you shouldn't be leaking and cherry picking any fact that you think can fit your narrative. chairman schiff, release the transcripts. don't give me the grand jury b.s. because ...

Why this unprecedented storm of reaction from the usually silent national security sector? joining me now, the former deputy director of the cia, former white house national deputy security director. she was the first to sign the letter opposing president trump's actions against john brennan. welcome both. thank you very much. first to you. you know the agency. you've been at the nsc and following that at the cia. why do you think this outpouring? >> i really think it comes down to the very fundamental principle you outlined at the beginning. i think people feel a frustration with respect to t...