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At all. >> about scott walker, he has pretty far to fall though. because he has a huge deficits that have yet to -- >> that's true. >> the difference though too i think between the clinton and bush matchup is the media elevated bill clinton to be this hero and so she is saying -- >> after his impeachment. >> get me back in the white house you get bill. the difference, media destroyed george w. bush. the name i.d. is different. with bush oh. with bush it is another bush. with hillary clinton it is likes it is her turn. that is very different message. one is compelling, sort of, the other is not...

They're not doing enough to reach out to younger voters and others who felt alienated over the years. so that's pretty striking to me that now you have two candidates -- potential candidates for the presidency on the republican side who are saying we can't go on existing as we are today. >> hey, chuck, richard haass off camera said something fascinating about jeb bush talking about this early. getting it out there early. and just getting a read. sort of setting up a trial balloon a year out. do you think that's happening? >> i do think he's -- look. he's not been afraid of two issues that coul...

Look at what they do or who you want them to be. be with all due respect, the guys that know the system use the system. they sign up the chain. it's not one low level employee issuing a subpoena. it gets reviewed along the way. let's follow the process. >> megyn: that is one of questions. how they had done it to and how many times it happened. and as he does a roundtable with the reporters, he is wants to meet with the bush oh chief and get our input on what he should do with respect to his own guidelines. you know what? you are the top law enforcement officer. you make the call. i think you d...