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Writer for "the washington post" and an msnbc contributor. michael, how surprised are you that congressman who, you know, danced all over the floor is saying the stimulus was the end of america, like paul ryan, then got stimulus money, saying that it would create new jobs? >> you know, it's funny. the stimulus has become my number one obsession. >> for a lot of us. it's our number one -- you're perfectly normal. totally healthy. don't worry about that at all. >> that's right. paul ryan's sort of been my number two. and so i would have to say i wasn't very surprised. this sort of fits the m.o. ...

Michael, how surprised are you that congressman who, you know, danced all over the floor is saying the stimulus was the end of america, like paul ryan, then got stimulus money, saying that it would create new jobs? >> you know, it's funny. the stimulus has become my number one obsession. >> for a lot of us. it's our number one -- you're perfectly normal. totally healthy. don't worry about that at all. >> that's right. paul ryan's sort of been my number two. and so i would have to say i wasn't very surprised. this sort of fits the m.o. of a deficit hawk who supported the bush tax cuts and the b...