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About jeb and the things he said about thousand points of light. but right now president bush sr. never let resentments bother him. he went to become a friend of clinton who had defeated him and made him crushed. so i think that set an example for president trump. at least in the last couple of days. that's all we can ask right now. >> right. the history here is not just one of political rancor, right? it's been deeply personal. here's some of the things president trump has said about the bush family. >> thousand points of light. i never quite got that one. what the hell is that? i think bush ...

He wouldn't have won the state of pennsylvania or perhaps the presidency to the extent pennsylvania's demographics are similar to the two other key swing states, michigan and wisconsin. >> and ben, that county as you report had been voting democratic for several previous presidential elections. >> they hadn't voted for a republican since 1988, bush sr. they'd voted for obama twice. but they surged for trump. and he won it by 20 points. you had all these democrats crossing over to vote in the republican primary for trump. and of course they stayed with him for the general. they said that the --...

He wouldn't have won the state of pennsylvania or perhaps the presidency to the extent pennsylvania's demographics are similar to the two other key swing states, michigan and wisconsin. >> and ben, that county as you report had been voting democratic for several previous presidential elections. >> they hadn't voted for a republican since 1988, bush sr. they'd voted for obama twice. but they surged for trump. and he won it by 20 points. you had all these democrats crossing over to vote in the republican primary for trump. and of course they stayed with him for the general. they said that the --...

The president's lawyer that he would be trying to preserve those time honored sort of practices in ensuring that the future of the presidency was not led down a different path by the conduct of this president. >> i would offer one amendment which is, i think, a fair reading of the history is that other presidents have certainly been criticized for struggling to use the pardon power in a uniform or nonself-interested way. bush, in the administration you served, david, was criticized for using the cometation power. bill clinton, in pardoning in an unusual way when he was still a fugitive, seen a...

Reagan years, the bush sr. and junior years saying if the mark is going your way, should be self-explanatory. what you have to pound is the improvement of jobs, the improvement of the gdp and the things that people will relate to. it's icing on the cake if markets are going well what do you think of that? >> yes. and president trump is going on make america great again. if it wasn't for bernie sanders and hillary clinton criticizing the economy, you would think there's a republican in the white house as opposed to barack obama. >> neil: one thing that floored me with the criticism that a lot o...