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I think the interest of it is a why? why would you attack someone, or why you want someone you consider allies to deploy an attack on someone people are quite wary of. >> and if you're a publisher of the national enquirer, why would you guarantee a reference to the feds? >> last week the president gave an interview to fox news in which he said, michael cohen? michael cohen who? this guy doesn't do any legal work for me, he's in trouble for his own business problems. also the president has basically tried to separate himself in all other kinds of ways from cohen. cohen is this headline that say...

Close. >> it seems like he's trying to play the short game but not looking at the long game of what this could mean. it could be also if you're reading the tea leaves, we might be getting ahead, he might it be worried cohen is going to flip. >> wouldn't you if you were one of robert mueller's people, i've come to trust you a lot in this analysis, call up in cohen? did you see your friend this morning? did you see how he separated himself from you? did you see him dump on you and say you're nothing but a guy that does little things for him and has a lot of business problems you don't know about...

Intelligence background. what the hell is he doing being the point person on foreign affairs, on peace in the middle east, running around as a shadow diplomat in saudi arabia? >> he's a smart businessperson. >> no, because he's the president's son-in-law who has all kinds of business problems like jeffrey just said and he needs the money for foreign investments. >> if i'm reading the story, and gloria and shimon and carter all fantastic reporters. if i'm reading it and i'm jared, i'm feeling pretty good. it was basically everything that was in the michael wolff book, and they're going to see w...

In his 20s but he couldn't figure out how to fill out a security form? oh, he just forgot all these foreign contacts he's had, all he these difficult entanglements he's had, and it was just reported that he requested more classified information than anyone outside, more than the national security councilmembers? what is jared kushner doing in the white house in this capacity? he has zero foreign policy experience, zero diplomatic experience. he has run his family business almost into the ground, yet he doesn't have a security clearance, he has no intelligence background. what the hell is he do...

Why do they get a free pass? >> you see the talk about solutions. you see the social media companies on the hill. is congressional overnight where this is headed next? >> most people will say in government, we don't want to regulate social media or put a crimp in the first amendment. increasingly, i hear from my sources that is exactly what is necessary. whether it is facebook spreading make news from russian-connected actors in the last election here, or whether it's brexit or catalonia. this is not just an american problem. it is a global problem that global governments are trying to solve. ...