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To that argument, or to that suggestion is, look, the classic situation is, you get money from some corporate interest and then you go and do their bidding in government and here s an example of him doing precisely the opposite. but i thought the tone in john harwood s interview was notable and i think that we ll see something along those lines tomorrow when he makes this speech at cooper union in the shadow of wall street. it s not going to be one of these barn burners. he s not going to put the screws to wall street. he s going to say, can t we all get along in one form or another, saying it s in your interest to get behind reform. don t fight us. join us. chris go ahead, john. reporter: you may remember a famous quote where some politician said if you can t take their money and date their women i m editing the quote. you are. reporter: you aren t worth a darn of a yeah, that s a california phrase and i love it well. the question is, is he tough enough to keep askin ....
well, that s their problem. the fact is you and i have to get on airplanes and show an honest i.d. card and if it s not an honest i.d. card, it s fraud. okay. and if we go to the bank and try to get money out and if it s not us, it s fraud. if we try to check into a hotel and use a phony name it s fraud. go the other congressman. what about arizona? why does states try to get into the business the federal government is into? which is protecting us from illegal immigration? well, i think the same reason they re involved in the drug war, too, chris, is that this is a community problem. it s not just a washington, ....
Welcome back to hardball. there s a big fight unfolding in the state of arizona over an immigration bill that would allow local law enforcement officials, police officers, to stop a person, they suspect, is an illegal immigrant. here s illinois congressman louis gutierrez. luis gutierrez reacting to the bill yesterday in washington. let s listen. the governor of arizona should veto the bill and if she doesn t, the president of the united states barack obama should assert federal government s preeminent role in regulating and enforcing our nation s immigration laws. the lunacy of rounding up people because they look a certain way are suspected of being in violation of immigration statutes can only lead to one thing, violations of people s basic fundamental civil rights. democratic congresswoman loretta sanchez from california sits on the homeland security ....
And they never discussed with us anything with respect to the charge that will be brought. so this notion that somehow there would be any attempt to interfere in an independent agency is completely false. okay, john harwood, help me out here. why would it look bad for any politician to say let s get tough with these bad guys to any regulatory agency? i guess i don t sew see where there s a downside to saying, let s all be dick tracys here? reporter: i think you have a point, chris. i think the question is was there any interference? and the president was very strong in saying, absolutely there was not. i see. reporter: and you know he s pushing back against this mistrust in the country, and one of the things that people might point to, we ll see how the s.e.c. s case turns out but greg craig, the former white house counsel has gone to now represent goldman and, again, if you re of a mind, as a lot of people are on the right, the left, to distrust the bonus of the government you ....
D.c., concern or just a border problem. this is something across the board. you can imagine how successful we d number fighting the of drug dealers if we just said well, local government s not going to be involved, we will not allow the counties and cities involved, we ll do this all, just the federal government and you know it has to be a coordinated community effort across the board, and any kind of enforcement effort. this is the basis of community enforcements. yeah, okay. let me ask you a problem. suppose you have a second-generation mexican-american or from colombia or somewhere, you have a hispanic look, complex, whatever you, may have something about you that indicates you from that part of the country or that part of the world originally, your parents were. and a cop stops you and says, well you have a mustache, or something that makes me think that you re mexican-american or something and he starts bothering you. don t you think we ll have a problem here with cops botheri ....