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Early states today and also in california. so i really do think that what folks are questioning coming into that debate as frank was mentioning, who do i trust to go up against donald trump and i think she answered that question for a lot of folks last night and they feel ready to sign on. >> i'm curious then this morning. the vice president has a long record of fighting for civil rights during his career. this bussing issue is real from his past. he defended it last night. today, after what was said last night, is senator harris confident that joe biden can be trusted on issues of racial equa...

Come back better. he's got to do a better job of explaining the context, particularly of the bussing issue. i think the stuff about the segregationists, that's more of a gaffe and i think he's done okay on dealing with that, but it's very different to go back and talk about what the situation was in the '70s. it's easier for kamala harris to talk about her personal experience their that's giving you something. i think biden wakes up this morning still as the front-runner but what we got last night was an idea of where this race is shaking out. we have a definite top tier now. kamala harris cle...

Time that this was being discussed in delaware, there were leaders in the african-american community, leaders in the civil rights community who said this is putting undue burden on african-american families and what the vice president did not support was mandating that african-american children had to be bussed to get to a school where they could have the same opportunity they would have in the white community. so what he did was focus on broader systemic changes to help ensure that our schools are integrated and everybody has opportunities. other candidates in the race aren't going to dictate...

That was not a textbook joe biden performance last night. >> the bar is high for joe. i think the anticipation -- he's a good debater, but he's not going to get caught behind the 8 ball and instead that's what happened. i give kamala harris great credit for doing that. she reminded folks about the bussing issue at the same time she intimated the difference in age without saying -- eric swalwell was more aggressive, time to pass the torch, i'm ready to take it up. she was more subtle. i was a little girl on the bus when you were debating these issues. >> and making it personal. >> making it per...

Rights record. this was a big moment. >> kamala harris came into this debate, that was premeditated. you decided she was going to take on the vice president and he was a little bit rattled. i don't think he had a great concise answer. and i think she won that exchange because she went at it twice, brought up his comments, not praising desegregation or segregationist senators but saying how he worked with them and liked that and then went at him directly and said what about the bussing issue that you supported 40 years ago and she personalize that saying i was one of those kids on the bus. a bi...