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On whether that was a good move to put that information out before it came out either through a newspaper or television report or from investigators. so there's still some agreement on that. but what we saw today, joy, is the president wants to reclaim the absence of knowledge on when he began paying that fee. he did acknowledge it on twitter saying it was a reimbursement but the timing, when he knew is now a question once again. joy? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you for joining me. to help understand what is going on with rudy guiliani, i'm joined by michael daley from "the daily beast" whose la...

But the timing, when he knew is now a question once again. joy? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you for joining me. to help understand what is going on with rudy guiliani, i'm joined by michael daley from "the daily beast" whose latest piece is entitled "rudy guiliani the mob bust sister now sounds like a mob mouthpiece." giuliani leaks when is he wants to leak. >> he's famous for na. >> the patrick doors man leak, the juvenile records. >> when he held up the guy's criminal record. he leaked a juvenile record. he said there is no choir boy. it turns out he was a choir boy. >> this was a kid shot by ...