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The government thinks is not true. >> but ross, isn't that the point? mike flynn didn't take the process seriously, he felt a need by his own guilty plea to lie about sanctions pleas and other things. but people who do know better, who know how this works, pretending that that problem would be the investigators fault for asking questions in a proceeding where you would get in trouble. that's not the investigators fault, is it? >> not necessarily the investigator's fault. you're a lawyer, i promise if initiate sitting in front of you, if you had unlimited time and resources to prepare, would sa...

One moment in a broader picture where i still think he's in the same environment of policies that he was when he started the campaign. >> but ross, mr. trump is reaching out to picks for his staff that a lot of republicans who weren't totally on board with him might like, like nikki haley as u.s. ambassador to the united nations. >> right. we haven't yet seen the most important staffing decisions that president trump will make which are basically secretary of state, secretary of defense and the treasury department. so far he's made picks up until haley that were mostly campaign loyalists, peop...