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Escape hatch for biden. it was so ham-handed and over the top, it allows us the next day to be talking about how inappropriate the attack was, rather than this was another debate that raised more of those concerns, particularly as he went on. there are democratic voters who are uneasy about his ability to perform against president trump. there are also a lot of democratic voters uneasy about the positioning of warren and sanders and how that would play out in a general election. and last night kind of -- you know, it was one of those nights where the second-tier candidates were probably more i...

Debate. she's gotten enough of that to add to the mainstream support. to demonstrate the willing coalition she's going to need to advance in the next three months. >> other things you notice, once you drop down, right, joel, from joe biden, a lot of these polls, second, third and fourth are within the margin of error. essentially a dead heat. >> they are. as i always like to remind people, it's early. buttigi buttigieg's number is earlier than they can hoped. with dean's organization, they got deans endorsement when he ran tour dnc chair. they feel good about some of their progressive bona fid...

I think everyone is right now still finding their way. it's very, very early. and the president's clip just there was pretty interesting. it was actually remarkably on brand in that, yeah, pete buttigieg loves sort of talking about the pronounceuatiation of name. one of the hottest merchandise thing has been these phonetic pronunciation t-shirts you see all of his rallies and his fund-raisers. but, he was interesting, because i caught him during this moment where he had this meteoric rise, he was getting a ton of money and getting a ton of press and raising a ton of money, and then he collided...

So couched as it was, he struggled. >> that is, of course, willie, that is, of course, pathetic. he struggled? there's nothing to struggle about. there's nothing to struggle about. and by the way, stop saying she hates america because she doesn't agree with you on every single point. it's being suspicious of israel is not hating america. it's just not the same. and i say that as a guy that's about as pro-israel as anybody on tv. >> well, so many of these congressmen live in fear of donald trump. they don't want to cross him even on something as objectively bad as we saw last night. and it was ...

You look at the people that he's driving away. here is a president that if he just campaigned on the economy he would probably be sitting at 50%, but he does these things and he thinks he's cementing his own support. he's got who he's got, he's not going to get anybody new, but he is driving away not only women, not only suburban voters, not only everybody else -- i mean, he's also depressing a part of his own vote who at the end of the day will say, do you know what, i voted for this guy because i thought he'd shake things up. i don't like the democrats. i'm just going to stay home. there is ...