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Speculation on that point on twitter and elsewhere. and, you know, typically with folks in trump's orbit, if there's a spectrum between, like, incredibly devious sort of manipulative puppet mastery and just clumsy incompetence, it's usually closer to the clumsy incompetence. i think that's what happened here, they were very indiscrete. >> so, that's part of his defense, that the people around trump are not button down, carolyn? >> right, absolutely. it reminds you of the mar-a-lago seen when they had a conversation about national security and geopolitical crises in the middle of a party. >> il...

>> did you ever have the sense that they wanted to be heard? >> well, that last part first. i don't get the sense that they wanted to be heard. i've seen a little bit of speculation on that point on twitter and elsewhere. and, you know, typically with folks in trump's orbit, if there's a spectrum between, like, incredibly devious sort of manipulative puppet mastery and just clumsy incompetence, it's usually closer to the clumsy incompetence. i think that's what happened here, they were very indiscrete. >> so, that's part of his defense, that the people around trump are not button down, carolyn...

Steve bannon likes to rail against the maim stream media and how undocumented immigrants a scourge on society through the seams of several button-down dress shirts he likes to wear all at once in public. if you thought this was a one-time deal for "60 minutes" sunday you'd be mistaken. here he is earlier this year wearing two shirts, two button-down and a blazer. here he is a week after the presidential election rocking two button-down shirts again in public. here he is in july of last year holding up one finger while wearing two button-down shirts. here's last february wearing what could poss...

Steve bannon likes to rail against the maim stream media and how undocumented immigrants a scourge on society through the seams of several button-down dress shirts he likes to wear all at once in public. if you thought this was a one-time deal for "60 minutes" sunday you'd be mistaken. here he is earlier this year wearing two shirts, two button-down and a blazer. here he is a week after the presidential election rocking two button-down shirts again in public. here he is in july of last year holding up one finger while wearing two button-down shirts. here's last february wearing what could poss...

Because, of course, that's how they make their living. there's a real issue in american -- >> you realize it's not necessarily illegal to leak, right? >> it's not always illegal, but there's something ethical you have to wonder when you have a law enforcement official who doesn't want to publish something under his own name, doesn't want to resign in protest, but gets himself involved in things where he leaks. now the question is, whatleaked? why didn't he leak things when loretta lynch was coming and telling him to say things? he really hurt his own credibility with the american people. the a...