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Has been to be significant, has to be someone he needs to speak to. he wants to know from the oligarch who are you talking to, what are you doing, what are you will go for? there is a ton of questions. the fact that at&t and novartis happen to be art of the bank records would be a question of what else is he doing? what's happening here? i don't think it necessarily falls in the same category as russia. but it's still of interest because there is no -- it's in this account. there is a lot of questions. >> quick last word david then a break. >> look there is every possibility that this money is...

Break. >> look there is every possibility that this money is not about buying access, the $500 but is a pay off for past services. we don't know that. but one of the things that's important and guess wak to paul's point is that mueller was interviewing them six months ago and guess what happened then. they raided the offices cohen because they thought a crime had been committed. they thought they had evidence. it's not a neutral fact when at the go into the office taking the hit that they got publicly for doing that >> i'm sure the story is not over. i'm sure the discussion is not over guys. s...

He was and what he stood for. and this whole idea of buying access for $200,000, i mean, you know, personally, i don't think that's appropriate. even fit was appropriate, there is a mechanism by which that is handled. it is done through a lobbyist or some other form where it is regulated. i mean it looks like michael cohen was selling access to the president of the united states to multinational corporations and he certainly wasn't doing legal work for them. that we know from the prior representations made in the southern district. >> do you think any of the companies were aware that they were...

During that transition right down the hall from donald trump. he saw on a opportunity. >> the president's personal attorney michael cohen embroiled in another potential scandal as he faces allegation ls of influence pedaling. >> we're talking about the president of the united states. we have michael cohen, his right hand attorney who appears to have been selling access to the russia russians, to other foreign entities. >> reporter: buying access the nothing new in washington. plenty of top trump campaignees have made a lucrative living by doing just that. the scrutiny could present new headach...

Trump has no political background and people don't know anything about his political leanings or there is no history, what is wrong with trying to gain information? >> wait a minute. i don't buy into that. i don't buy into the whole concept he had no -- he may not have had a political background. but i think that during the debates and during the campaign people learned a lot about who he was and what he stood for. and this whole idea of buying access for $200,000, i mean, you know, personally, i don't think that's appropriate. even fit was appropriate, there is a mechanism by which that is ha...