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In a place where they owe something. >> russians have money they want laundered. >> and they are buying influence. they want to know they are doing their bidding because they have something over them. whether that is blackmail on something sordid. >> manafort is the only member of the trump campaign facing prison time. all of those indicted are cooperating. numerous other people under scrutiny. don jr., jared kushner, roger stone. mimi, i think this somebois the round. it is going to be a ten or 15 round fight. my guess it ends with donald

That and i'll take that point, but i think largely this is just about politics. does the president have the right to do this? yes, he does. he almost has more authority in this area than in any other. should he do it? is it the right move? that's going to come down to politics, wolf. if you support the president, you're okay with it. you see these people -- buying influence in some cases, politicizing in others. is there hypocrisy in that? yes. why? michael flynn despite all his problems kept security clearance along the way. what's the difference? the difference is that the president was okay...

Just say if the supposition is true, that the russians are trying to buy influence via an american cousin, and that's a big if. but if that's true, guess what? they didn't buy what they thought they were buying. it did not work. because donald trump has been incredibly hard on russia, incredibly hard on putin. so the idea he that he is putin's puppet is just an absolute charade. >> steve, the companies have issued statements at least confirming or at least denying some of the things, explaining it i should say, explaining it. so there is no if any of this is true. the companies issued statemen...

Tradition, one which i think donald trump is breaking. and if at&t and the russia thought they were buying influence with the president, guess what? they didn't. because this is a president who can't be bought. he is our first ever citizen president with no government experience, who has no interests -- >> steve, i'm not trying to cut you off. i think you're making good points. that's why i want to scientific to. i actually the you're making good points. what i would like to know, i think people sitting at home would like to know, what questions would you, because that's a good point. >> again...

Around the time of election to someone so close to donald trump, this is exactly the kind of collusion or possible conspiracy. i'm not saying that's been proven yet but this sets off red flags. one thing i wanted to add about buying influence to the president, most people probably are not aware that federal bribery law is very narrow. paying someone to make an introduction to someone like donald trump to get access is actually in most circumstances not in and of itself a crime. what you need is to pay to get access and then get that politician or that elected official to do some kind of offici...