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With. for a long time it felt like you didn't have to look too closely when you filled up the tank. but now, what? >> $75? when did that happen? >> on some level it's a good thing because there is always alternative energy sources including -- i'm not a big fan of it, hydrofracking. that's where you drill down and get the gas -- i'm from pennsylvania where hydro fracking is a big deal. all of a sudden alternative fuels start looking cost effective. the biggest problem we have in mayor case it's hard to wean us off the oil. as soon as it starts getting expensive. martha: punish us all into buyi...

It's about whether or not they knowingly selling something they knew was going to go kablooey as long as goldman could trick people into knowing they could trick poor schlubs into buying something that they knew was going to go kablooey. it's all dressed up in fancy wall street language, but it was an age-old scam. the kind of thing for which regulation was invented. to force transparency in the marketplace so people know what they're buying, so people selling stuff are forced to compete without tricking their customers. wall street's allergy to transparency was on display today in exchanges l...

The mortgage crisis but because of it. >> this is standard practice on wall street. it's surprising to many out in america. goldman sachs went both ways. you can bet that something is going to go up and you can bet that something is going to go down. you can bet on practically anything on wall street and goldman from what we're learning bet both ways and net gaped because their bets against the housing market seemed to have covered and then some their bets in favor of the housing market. >> so then is there a chance that goldman sachs could have manipulated the market? >> i think that's one of...

Disappointed that bad news did not filter its way up to the secretary. had you republicans, rudy giuliani saying immediately. wait a second, bad news didn't filter up to the president either not just on v.a., h.h.s., irs, the botched healthcare rollout. all of these things you have seen the president either learning about some the details in the media or learning later from cabinet secretary after the fact. remember on the health carrollout days before the botched rollout the president was out there saying the web site is going to be so good as easy as buying something on amazon.com. the staff...