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Office january of '09 your friend must have known this is going on and why didn't desomething or scream from the treetops? >> i don't know. i think there has been a tendency not only with rick but with his predecessors that this huge bureaucracy at the upper levels in the v.a. has a habit of isolating the secretary, keeping the bad news and waiting out the man in charge. the idea is if you are a bureaucrat they can't fire me. this guy will be gone soon. i will keep the bad news from the boss and eventually he will move on and wool start the cycle all over again. that's been going on for a long...

Something? a promised to fix. >> even though this did predate him. >> this does predate him but any red state where there is particular republicans wanting to put obama on the ballot over the head of a democrat. i think you are going to see this edges inned. >> alexander, interesting, i read today that senator john mccain suggested senator tom coburn he hates waste and a guy that is blunt and right to the point. any chance we are going to see someone like that as the replacement? >> he would be a strong replacement, especially for republicans who have touted the g.o.p. as the party of reform. ...

>> let's go off-the-record for main. in the last few days i have been outraged at president obama. in 2008, he campaigned on fixing the v.a. for the vets. remember this? >> no more homeless veterans, no more begging for disability payments. no more waiting in line for the v.a. we have a solemn obligation. to honor those who have served on our behalf. >> why didn't he? he promised. now i have also been outraged at general shinseki, how key not know about the problems and fix them? he was the head of the v.a. and that was his job? how about congress? they have committed to provide oversight of t...

House throughout the v.a. remember, time passes, people change, but veterans still get sick. >> and indeed they do. general, always nice to he see he you, thank you. >> thank you, greta. >> two big resignation announcements here in washington today. as we just noted eric shinseki and expwra carney. joining us our political panel the washington examiner susan ferrechio; susan, first to you, i guess the writing certainly was on the wall for general shinseki. the last one to know was the president, apparently. >> well, for a while we thought he might hang on a little bit longer. last week getting...

>> and casey kasem news. >> let my dad see his family. >> what's up with the famous dj? it's a jam-packed "on the record" tonight. >> this is a fox news alert. v.a. secretary eric shinseki is out. his resignation coming amid exploding outrage over the v.a. scandal and that is not the only big announcement from the white house today. fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry joins us live. ed? >> good to see you, greta. what an intense day as you mentioned. jay carney has been at that white house podium for weeks now having to defend eric shinseki and the unfolding scandal at the v.a. s...