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Watching all of that testimony earlier this week. we are told by three people familiar with the matter that the president was caught offguard by some of the testimony. of course, this testimony this morning in the wake of that buzz feed report is coming under much sharper scrutiny here particularly the questions there. we know the president was surprised and taken aback a bit, we are told, by the friendship that william barr described between him, his family and the special counsel robert mueller. he said they are good friends and will remain good friends. if the president has tried one thing ...

Pliek l michael cohen said and we have to see what coother documents a other peoples testimony, that could be the most important thing of all. >> and neither cnn or other news organization is yet to confirm this buzz feed report. if true it is a crime. ask richard nixon. he had to resign as a result. bill clinton was impeached in the house of representatives. he was convicted in the senate. >> absolutely. it is is not coming out of left field. i think part of what makes this story of a different kind is it's not subtle. there is not a debate about whether perjury there this case would be obstr...

Vlgs the white house denied a bomb shell a report from buzz feed news which as saying president trump dregted his personal attorney to lie to congress about negotiations to built a trump tower in moscow. let's bring there our legal experts to discuss all of this. if true this would be perhaps the biggest break in this investigation so far. >> i think that's right. the behavior described in the buzz feed story is a crime. is president trump or -- it's unclear when this took place, whether it was after the election or before the inauguration but if he told michael cohen to lie that's a crime. th...

Very serious crime. and by the way, forget about whether it is a democrat or republican talking, the president here, richard nixon and clinton, the articles of impeachment including encouraging people to lie. cohen himself who may come before the congress soon will be spending time in prison for lying to congress. >> i know you have spent the last 18 months looking into all of this. have you seen personally independent evidence to back up this buzz feed report? >> well, the buzz feed report, wolf, is the bomb shell, as you called it, is that the president encouraged michael cohen and perhaps o...

He hasn't quite settled on it. he may be getting advice from his daughter on this issue. they may be telling him, don't do it. as tempted as you are, you are going to make things worse if you give her an awful nickname. >> reporter: despite indications that nancy pelosi is winning this battle of public perception, members of congress and political analysts are warning this could turn on a dime. now, about a month in the shutdown, it might. both trump's and pelosi's base supporters will have had enough and they will ask loudly, when are you two going to figure out how to work together on this? ...