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Accurate. buzzfeed is not backing down. we stand by our reporting and the sources that informed it and we urge the special counsel to make clear what he is disputing. all right. it's good to have you both, all right? let's deal with where we think things stand. buzzfeed says one thing. the mueller people change in terms of what they believe is true about what they know. does that end the buzzfeed reporting for you? >> for me, i take it as now we are back to exactly where we were at the point where cohen pleaded guilty to lying to congress and we should let the facts come out as they may.

>> in what way? and to who. >> to all of us. a day after a story is published they come out with a very very detailed and very opaque statement disputing it. >> are you concerned -- i'm concerned, frankly, that when you -- over the next few months, whenever there's a hot story, a big scoop that comes out, you are going to hear from the president and his supporters, it's another buzzfeed story, it's another story like buzzfeed where even robert mueller said it was false. do you worry that's going to damage all of us? >> you know, we are, like most of our colleagues, very focused on doing the re...

>> ben, i think brian stelter has a question for you. >> ben, earlier today the republican national committee challenged one of the two reporters, jason, said he has a history of false reporting. i know he has had a great track record working for you. are you concerned about the history of your reporters being questioned and their work being questioned? >> thanks for the question, brian. >> i think that when we saw the # republican attacking the reporters in the story, that struck us as -- that's something you typically do when you don't have a better response. we did not see the kind of stron...

This, his son don junior tweeted about it saying, i told you so. there's probably more to come in terms of reaction. >> pamela brown, appreciate your reporting. buzzfeed just responded. i'm quoting from them. we are continuing to report and determine what the special counsel is disputing. we remain confident in the accuracy of our report. joining us is maggie haberman and preet bharara. maggie, what do you make of this? >> a lot of different things. it's still hard to figure it out. one thing that pam brown said that i don't think is true is the statement didn't say there is nothing to this. t...

Redetailed and very opaque statement disputing it. >> are you concerned -- i'm concerned, frankly, that when you -- over the next few months, whenever there's a hot story, a big scoop that comes out, you are going to hear from the president and his supporters, it's another buzzfeed story, it's another story like buzzfeed where even robert mueller said it was false. do you worry that's going to damage all of us? >> you know, we are like most of our colleagues, very focused on doing the reporting and getting it right. that's all we can do. >> so now, right now, you have reporters out there tryin...