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sew syracuse against a roman siege. they set fire to roman ships. >> sounds political actually. >> how did it work out? >> this time instead of using soldiers, we used school kids. they're middle school and high school kids from alameda. my wife teaches science there, byds involved in science. >> and they wanted an episode where we could involve the kids in the actually experiment. this was a perfect opportunity. >> so the president's role in all of this, what is his role? >> well, he calls us to the white house in the episode. he says that although we've tested this myth before, we've never tested it with soldiers and shields, and he wants us to put the archimedes myth to the final test. we go to san francisco and we try -- >> and what does he do?