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fighter jets as of yet. despite the ask, the continued asks over the last year from president zelenskyy that they in fact do. >> well, what i will tell you is that, no disrespect to the president. my assessment is, if you want the ukrainians to defeat the russians today, then we have to give them all the equipment that they need. that means attack helicopters, air defense, missiles, long-range artillery. and, if you want to go after those rockets that are being fired on the key infrastructure and the people, f-16s are perfect for doing that, they're also perfect for destroying villag...

>> so you hear him there being unequivocal saying anyone who says that putin would stop with ukraine's wrong. but also, targeting ron desantis who had downplayed rushes power in this moment. and as we enter this geopolitical fight, not just with russia but also china. pence trying to assert himself in the foreign policy lane and use the fact that he was a former vice president to sort of bolster any potential presidential bid that could be coming. >> talk about the potential. what do he saying? >> yeah. and he had some news for us there too. when i asked him about this run that he has been tea...

This is a question i asked early on in the conflict. and it is a question i want to ask now yet again because it seems like it is not inside which is where is the off ramp to this thing? it certainly seems like byron putin, he has a history of sticking to his guns, nope and intended. in conflicts and invasions like this. and they are ongoing for years and years. >> yeah. so, putin is pretty defiant. and so, there are two options. number one, negotiations. so both will have to come to the negotiating table. and there is going to have to be a mediator. and somewhere there is going to have to be ...