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Court, chipped away, chipped away in the federal election arena. the supreme court dealt a huge blow. overturning a 100-year old president that said basically corporations could give directly to political campaigns. everyone is up in arms because they don't like it. and they can't do anything about it. they want the irs to fix the problem. the irs laws are not set up to fix the problem. they can do straight political activity. they can go out and pay for an ad that says vote for joe blow. that's something they can do as long as their primary activity is their c-4 activity. which is social welf...

Court, chipped away, chipped away in the federal election arena. the supreme court dealt a huge blow. overturning a 100-year old president that said basically corporations could give directly to political campaigns. everyone is up in arms because they don't like it. and they can't do anything about it. they want the irs to fix the problem. the irs laws are not set up to fix the problem. they can do straight political activity. they can go out and pay for an ad that for joe blow. that's something they can do as long as their primary activity is their c-4 activity. which is social welfare. so ev...

So we're wondering if this has been something that's been going on for quite some time. is this just business as usual there at the i.r.s.? let's take a listen. >> what's really weird is that you don't have to get i.r.s. permission to be a c-4. the i.r.s. bihar rasing -- the i.r.s. bihar rasing these groups will make it so the groups can't get status at all. the i.r.s. in a sense is shooting itself in the foot. why is it doing it? as near as anybody can tell, because of a general hostility toward political activity by conservative groups. also i think just by new groups and by outside groups, ...

Still doing it. when there is a tea party inquiry, when there is a question about a tea party application on these 501-c-4's, they go to what is called the political advocacy section. sounds like something out of 1984 in the movie "brazil." there is sworn testimony they don't know what to do, so they say we better send it to the political advocacy section because there is a presumption that the tea party groups are doing something wrong. so after all these denials and after all these statements by the president that there is no scandal, apparently the scandal continues today. >>anna: yeah. and...

Permission to be a c-4. the irs by harassing these groups is just making it more likely in the future, the groups won't apply for irs status at all. they will just stop operating and then you don't know at all what they are doing. so the irs in a sense is shooting itself in the foot. why? because of a general hostility toward political activity by conservative groups and also i think by new groups and outside groups, groups that haven't been players in the field already. >> it is very difficult to prove things like discrimination. that's essentially what this is, discrimination. i suppose the ...