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This a terror attack, what goes into a definition like that? >> reporter: well, there's no question that it was a planned, coordinated attack intended to cause causalities. the point about this being small 5: packages, wolf, we're fortunate there would have more greater causalities if the packages themselves had been larger. while we know there are causalities and that's tragic, it's fortunate that this wasn't either a higher grade explosive or a larger device, which would have caused more causalities. >> let me bring tom fuentes into this discussion, former assistant fbi director, also a cnn ...

Yet, wolf, and that's their highest priority. there was no threat to the marathon in advance of the marathon today. they are going back now to see if there was something that was missed, either by federal or local officials. fbi confirmed there is no one in custody, and this law enforcement official also said to me that the two explosions that we've shown the tape of, wolf, along that end of the marathon route, it looks horrific, but i was told by the source that both packages that caused those explosions were small and that as of right now, initial tests, there does not appear to be used c-4 ...

In fact in numbers usa has been credited with blocking george, president george w. bush's immigration reform proposal in 2007. whether they can move the needle like that this time is still an open question. >> a political tide after 2012. the other question i have is always the question i have with these groups, how much you mentioned a $200,000 buy against lindsay graham. how much are you able to follow how much money is coming in and out of these groups and from who? >> they're all 501 c-4's, 501 c-3's we did an analysis that showed that $100 million over a ten-year period for those three gr...

>> in these pages he said he spent his summer weekends in those woods learning how to handle plastic explosives, hand grenades and something even more chilling. so i'll do the talking part and you can answer what part of it you want. you write how you fired rifles, submachine guns, handled assault weapons, grenade launchers, c-4, learned unarmed combat techniques through this training group over weekends. is it true or is it false? >> we're not going to comment on that. >> when you're 19 years old. you're saying you worked for the cia, you've been recruited. >> i'll let the document speak for ...

Approached by an associate of an old world war ii spy living in the atlanta area and was initiated into a secret world. you're not going to answer a single question on this? >> no, ma'am. >> is it fake? is it fictional writing? >> no. >> did you work for the cia? >> we're not going to get into that. >> in these pages he said he spent his summer weekends in those woods learning how to handle plastic explosives, hand grenades and something even more chilling. so i'll do the talking part and you can answer what part of it you want. you write how you fired rifles, submachine guns, handled assault ...