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People yesterday who said you know, i wouldn't vote for mitt romney in the general election. i will not vote for him if he's the nominee. conservative republicans just can't abide the guy. >> wow. >> we can over state that but it's kind of out there. >> a little harsh, gene. >> no, no. we're hearing that. but mitt romney, though, has got another sell to make. just winning these races is not going to be enough. he has got to make the sell with conservatives. i think he can. as you remember, michael, he was wildly popular at c-pac four years ago. they didn't want him out of the race. he can make...

Which is looking at a relatively early primary now of late february. i think florida will be the deciding contest. >> who's the third? >> perry, romney and huntsman. huntsman, interestingly enough, with respect to the straw ballot was the only candidate who committed to play. his wife is from orlando. they have invested resources. he may overperform. not only did perry create an opening for romney with the florida delegates but he may have created an opening for huntsman and other candidates as well. >> who wins the straw vote tomorrow? romney or somebody else? >> i don't know if romney could ...

Next thing after c-pac is the straw poll in florida. if perry doesn't win that, that's another land mine for him. >> these are some live pictures by the way from c-pac and what we've been talking about here. this is the sixth presidential debate. it's the third in 15 days. do we get to a point where we know where they all stand on every relevant issue and if we don't get to it, do we get to it? >> you're right about that. it feels like overkill sometimes. i watch the debate last night on youtube and i felt like i heard everything before from the previous debate. i was trying to figure out wher...

Tough and get serious about these issues that really affect all of us? >> i think they already are. if you look at the states of ohio, florida, virginia, i think i already said ohio but indiana and new jersey are -- have governors where they gave speeches in the last couple of weeks, one at c-pac and another -- i can't remember exactly where. it's spencer christiachris chri daniels. these speeches are being circulated amongst conservatives and maybe other political web sites. people are talking about this and looking at it saying that's so refreshing. that's exactly what we need to hear. peggy...

Campbell's.® it's amazing what soup can do.™ welcome back. thanks for staying with us tonight. this year's c pac started out like a party with michele bachmann buying everyone drinks. it ended with charges that radical islam has infiltrated the conservative movement. well for the second year in a row ron paul beet out mitt romney to win the c pac straw poll. there was a fake sarah palin and a real michele bachmann at c pac this year. here is the minnesota congresswoman with the guy from the rent is too damn high party. he is a great interview by the way. most of the crowd went nuts when d...