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Do more to americans going back to wanting their federal government to do less in the first several months of the biden administration. >> can i ask you a question, the two of you. americans suddenly want government to do more. biden says, i'll do more. i'll announce this very sweeping, ambitious, domestic agenda. back in april, he said, you know, fdr and lbj. >> thought he had it. >> the sudden shift, as soon as baden says, "okay, i'll do more because you want more," is that what causes, do you think, the swing back in the other direction? people go, oh, my god, that's not what i meant? >> no...

They're all back slabbing each other for doing their jobs, and a job at the last minute. >> these jobs that are so difficult, particularly when they're jobs difficult to follow, are done last minute. these very difficult decisions become this dance that they have to do. at the end, the end result is that the american people win, although we may keep them up late at night. but i think it's an important dance. it is one that changes the paradigm. we all keep talking about this, but we're not fighting over how much we spend anymore, but talking about how much we save, and how wumuch we're going t...