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Seems now the irs is putting together a categorizing system in which they can create buckets of groups that could get screened by the same agents, not something politically nefarious but so that every category would have the same screening process. that's not necessarily a scandal. >> by the way, in all fairness to the bureaucrats, and i'm not the anti-bureaucrat, trying to figure out whether some sort of 501 c4 group is playing too much politics somewhere below 50%, trying to figure that in terms of behavior is going to be very tough. one thing i want to agree with michael about. what do you ...

Them are like organizing for america president's 501 c4 group. >> i want to give the viewers a sense of who this woman is. she doesn't like a lot of republicans and has very strong views, it doesn't sound wishy-washy on these issues and tweets. just to give you a background on what she worked with ofa after working three days with ofa. someone asked me if i know about the chrysler ads. and karl rove, there is a tweet about karl rove. >> she retweeted. american cross roads. that is his group he is affiliated with. i get them confused insists donors stand by rove and blame losses on very weak ca...

Of political advertising in a campaign season. corporations aren't just exxon mobil and so, there are a bunch of people that incorporate as 501 c4s, social welfare organizations, but are going to be getting a lot of adds in and don't have to disclose their donors. the question is, well, these things that say they're 501c4s, the irs has to stay what is the standard, what do you learn about what the irs is supposed to do when faced with this genuinely difficult question. these people say they're going to be a social welfare organization. which side of the line do they fall on? >> here's the main...

Mobil and so, there are a bunch of people that incorporate as 501 c4s, social welfare organizations, but are going to be getting a lot of adds in and don't have to disclose their donors. the question is, well, these things that say they're 501c4s, the irs has to stay what is the standard, what do you learn about what the irs is supposed to do when faced with this genuinely difficult question. these people say they're going to be a social welfare organization. which side of the line do they fall on? >> here's the main thing i learned from this. the people in cincinnati who are charged with look...

Mobil.a nch of people that incorporate as 501 c4s, social welfare organizations. but are going to be getting a lot of ads in and don't have to disclose their donors. the question is, well, these things that say they're 501-c4s, and aren't necessarily political, have to go through all of this political stuff. the irs has to stay what is the standard, what do you learn about what the irs is supposed to do when faced with this genuinely difficult question. these people say they're going to be a social welfare organization. they're also clearly political. which side of the line do they fall on? >>...