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Someone who i thought wronged me because it's more about the other person than it is about me. on this side of whatever interaction, how do i make this situation better, and how do i make both of us better people rather than coming at it from a negative perspective. and i wish that everyone could do that, not that i'm, you know, a saint or whatever. but i wish that people were -- instead of being judgmental, that they would be curious about other -- what someone else is about and about other people's actions. >> you know, that day and for the weeks afterwards, this was such a quiet city, and a...

Attacking sikh cab drivers like they were muslims, like that would make it okay. we started to see the reaction formation of the anger. what wore off was this idea of let's just hold on to what we have and remember how precious this all is. and then anger took over. anger is a really, really strong force, and especially in political persuasion. and we're seeing it at play right now. but on a day like today, you know, i hope people listened to the president this morning, what he was saying about the fragility of life, what he was saying about the need to remember precious moments between people...

>> well we, frankly i've been i hong kong a couple of times the last eight weeks, i've spoken with the men and women on the street, cab drivers, i spoke with carrie lam, the chief executive. i can tell you that up until now, the people on the street are quite sympathetic with the protesters. obviously it's that proposed extradition statute which has caused great angst because it's seen as representative of mainland china exercising even more control for hong kong than they have in the past. you have to remember that the conditions in hong kong are very, very tough. costs will be extremely high...

Government subsidized housing. so they'll look at all of that when determining who gets permanent legal residency here. >> critics are blasting it, as you said. they're calling this a racially motivated wealth test. do you agree with that? >> it's hard to not separate this out from every action the administration has taken on immigration going back to the president as a candidate how he announced talking about mexicans and implementing a travel ban right after they got here to restricting asylum rules and frankly the i.c.e. enforcement actions over the last week which were specifically targete...

Some way was running against their own baseline from which they started. so i think everyone can probably say they grew from where they were. i think some people won't like beto's style. i thought he told good stories. if you like that, if you go to his events, that's probably why you go. so it's really hard to sort of offer one objective analysis of who sang and who flopped. claire tonight was brutal to de blasio. >> i thought it was exciting. >> is it a new york thing, claire, do you have to be from new york to like bill de blasio? >> they don't like him at all. that's the problem. >> have y...