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If you watch any of this cable coverage or you read "the new york times" or "washington post," it is all destroy trump all the time. they don't let up even for a second. and they have not gotten onto what i think it is the biggest abuse of power scandal in the history of the country. what are your thoughts on that? >> i think transparency does go a long way, sean. you have always had, i am not a journalist, i'm an opinion host. i am a staunch supporter of the president. msnbc -- you are he talks a host. msnbc rarely gets hit, you notice by the president, and by a lot of critics out there, supp...

Years, and now i think they are more being turned off by it. maybe, just maybe, that is why they only have one show in the top 25 in cable among total viewers out of msnbc and fox. i think that it has a negative effect, even though it's creating the social buzz on social media because, i don't know, it is cheap and it becomes that cheesy news network as a result. i can't justify it, quite frankly. >> sean: i decided we will do a deep dive into all of them. all of their conflicts. i mean, a deep investigative dive. it is very clear -- this is the sad part for the american people in many ways --...

>> let me ask you about something that i think is catching a lot of people's attention. i know that axios is look at how issues that are likely to be big in the midterm elections aren't actually receiving much coverage in the media now that they're not front and center in congress. what did you find out about that? >> well, if you look especially at the last month of cable coverage stormy daniels getting way more coverage than any debate about healthcare or taxes. particularly on taxes, this really matters for republicans because we've now seen a decrease in the number of people who have a fav...

On tv that puts him in a bad mood. so, it really is waves and ebbing and flowing. the bottom line is whenever russia comes up, whether it's in an article like the one mike and maggie wrote, which then gets a lot of cable coverage, he is almost never happy. it is a thing that sort of sends him flying offer the handle. it makes him tweet. it's the thing that makes him call friends early in the morning and late at night. they pickup the phone and he doesn't even introduce himself. technically he's someone that doesn't need introduction. he launches into a rant. take his attorney general, he's som...

She is also emotional in this. she is a pure loyalist to the president. >> jen, you were white house communication director. you know the job. >> there is no question hope by all accounts played an important account. she was the tamer of the savage beast that is donald trump. she protected many people on the staff from his whims and mood swings. the communication directors and the role of the communication director is not to print off cable coverage or print off tweets. that is not entirely her part. in large part donald trump is the communication director. and he is not going to allow somebod...