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Nobody complained to him about it. he's not there as an anchor or spokesperson for a&e, i think she could have just said that. >> did they overreact and could they ever kept him on the air if he apologized? >> they make a lot of money about these top rated shows. >> it's the top rated cable shows. >> yes. and, in fact, they're going to run a marathon over the holiday that's includes a bunch of stuff from him. eventually, they will have to patch it up because the family has made clear that they're not happy about this. they put out a statement saying we can't imagine going forward with this sho...

You mentioned "breaking bad" and the finale had 53 million watching. why have we seen this transition and walk us through what both industries will look like longer term? >> i think they are all going to blend into each other. part of what happened is producers and show writers got real power on the cable shows, an absolute power, david chase. in the past nobody would have been able to say, well, we're not going to put the sopranos back on for a year and a half. because a network would have said, no, you're coming back in the fall. none of this stuff. and so they all created power. the social ...

Rights. then tax rates with the wealthy. you talk about the monster that is obama care and that unites them both. but it's gotten much much harder in wake of the shutdown. we now have a case study in how to navigate the question from three of the people running. ted cruz is taking sarah palin out. if he wants them, there are book deals and cable shows and a lifetime of right wing speeches in his future. >> would you like them in a house? would you like them with a mouse? i do not like them in a house. i do not like them with a mouse. i do not like them here or there. i do not like them anywher...

Insatiable base, tell them things they want to hear, so you cocome out on top in the aye iowa caucuses and primaries. while not alienating the businesses. for a long time it habit been that hard. we talk about abortion and gun rights. then tax rates with the wealthy. you talk about the monster that is obama care and that unites them both. but it's gotten much much harder in wake of the shutdown. we now have a case study in how to navigate the question from three of the people running. ted cruz is taking sarah palin out. if he wants them, there are book deals and cable shows and a lifetime of r...

You see how potentially influential this might be, that perhaps, you know, television programming might be modified or some things that might be influenced on the horizon as a result of the success of the show? >> i hope so. but, you know, you know this business better than i do. i think we just go for things that will attract people and then we look for the next best thing. but i do believe that it was well done, and some of the consultants made it possible for this to be seen in a -- for a wide variety of reasons, because it really came at a time when i think people were looking to see what ...