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What have you learned from that conversation? >> so you reference a journalist i spoke to who was let go from his job after coming out publicly on facebook. he wasn't brought back. his contract was a few days from expiring and he was dismissed from his job. he was inspired by another journalist who was on a pro kremlin cable station by the name of anton who came out in january. anton came out publicly on the air. oleg was inspired by that later on. in the conversations that i've had with both these gentlemen, anton has been out of work for an entire year. he's 38 years old and a had a very hig...

People, to russian people, to all russian people because it's not about gay rights, it's about human rights. >> what a courageous guy. what did you take out of that interview? >> well, i thought anton was a very courageous person, krystal, as you point out. hopefully you guys can see it in the interview. i found him to be incredibly conflicted in a sadness because this is a 38-year-old guy who was very popular as a political commentator and journalist here in russia working for a newly launched cable station but had a career prior to that. here's somebody that at 38 years old is basically star...

Cable station. when you came out on the air, it sent shock waves through the air and it's left him professionally sidelined ever since. >> i'm sitting home without job and actually without money. >> because of -- >> because i said that i am gay and the same person like president putin. >> so you had just had enough, you were fed up. >> totally. >> and when you decided to make this public statement, did you think about the consequences that might come? >> sure. >> and how did you adapt to that line of thinking then, if you knew that the consequences would be this -- >> because it's time. now it...

>> i don't know, about 60% of americans don't want to get rid of social security, and when it was passed, sathe same people sd it was socialism. >> didn't those same people said they would squander it and be in jail? >> the larger issue here is, look -- >> why do you trust the government when they have failed -- we have 17 trillion in debt, 15 million americans on food stamps, and social security and medicare are going bankrupt. >> we drove here on a highway, we have electricity, we have this cable station because america protects our airwaves. it does good things, too. >> if obama had his way...

>> i've been in the water at least 100 times. >> by now, more than 50 policemen and firefighters are on the scene, and couples assumes that with so many rescuers around they won't need his help. and up on the bridge, negotiators make contact with the man on the ledge as a crowd of onlookers gathers below. >> i see the big rescue truck there. i see police all along the bridge. >> howard gillam works for a local cable station and just happens to be driving by when he notices some commotion. >> so i'm, like, hey, i've got the camera in my car. let's get out and videotape it. >> gillam estimates b...