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Macy at princeton studied the border for over 30 years had a good concept. when he build a wall, you create a cage affect so people can no longer go back on their own. the old days people were able to go across for christmas a mother's day and bill stay there. now they're not going back. so we get more immigrants. the more we fortified the border the coyotes bring people across they raise their prices. >> how do we find people like that? >> is a good idea to stop them? >> we should stop them but be smart about it. i've interviewed experts on order patrolmen. they said don't give me a wall, giv...

Macy at princeton studied the border for over 30 years had a good concept. when he build a wall, you create a cage affect so people can no longer go back on their own. the old days people were able to go across for christmas a mother's day and bill stay there. now they're not going back. so we get more immigrants. the more we fortified the border the coyotes bring people across they raise their prices. >> how do we find people like that? >> is a good idea to stop them? >> we should stop them but be smart about it. i've interviewed experts on order patrolmen. they said don't give me a wall, giv...

Macy at princeton studied the border for over 30 years had a good concept. when he build a wall, you create a cage affect so people can no longer go back on their own. the old days people were able to go across for christmas a mother's day and bill stay there. now they're not going back. so we get more immigrants. the more we fortified the border the coyotes bring people across they raise their prices. >> how do we find people like that? >> is a good idea to stop them? >> we should stop them but be smart about it. i've interviewed experts on order patrolmen. they said don't give me a wall, giv...