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Are you ignoring his belief or the gay couple that feels discriminated against because the cake maker is refusing themselves. i think that's probably why the court, it is a very slippery slope. who exactly is being violated. >> the other piece to this, you know this is a rich debate in law and politics is the role of corporations, right. we heard that corporations are people. that's a legal fiction as they call it that's been widely debated. these cases echo some of the obamacare case debates about what companies can do and it raises the question whether corporations have a soul. i know that s...

Conscious, a photographer, cake-maker who says, my religion says i can't serve at a gay wedding, for example, that there's no protections in this order for them and there was at least some people thought in the earlier draft that was leaked. now, it's out. what's your response to that? >> well, my response to that if you actually read the text of the executive order and i have read it, what it does it directs the secretary of health and human services to write new regulations that protect religious liberty with respect to what remains of obamacare as we dismantle it. that's the little sisters ...

He opposed. he said sometimes you have to present an exaggerated view of the situation if you really want to make a point. he has made his point. should we consider his cake an act of war? >> i think it would be awesome if we can get him to not serve it at a gay wedding. then we can bring about the entire culture wear armageddon. >> exactly. how is it the cake maker who are at the forefront of america's controversy. >> i wonder if there is any cake truthers in austria right now. they are setting bay they are baking right now. what was this guy's thought process? i want to offend americans, but...

Legal political parties that he opposed. he said sometimes you have to present an exaggerated view of the situation if you really want to make a point. he has made his point. should we consider his cake an act of war? >> i think it would be awesome if we can get him to not serve it at a gay wedding. then we can bring about the entire culture wear armageddon. >> exactly. how is it the cake maker who are at the forefront of america's controversy. >> i wonder if there is any cake truthers in austria right now. they are setting bay they are baking right now. what was this guy's thought process? i ...

They are representing the legal political parties that he opposed. he said sometimes you have to present an exaggerated view of the situation if you really want to make a point. he has made his point. should we consider his cake an act of war? >> i think it would be awesome if we can get him to not serve it at a gay wedding. then we can bring about the entire culture wear armageddon. >> exactly. how is it the cake maker who are at the forefront of america's controversy. >> i wonder if there is any cake truthers in austria right now. they are setting bay they are baking right now. what was this...