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And operational ties with everybody. and it can bring, you know, the operational pieces together very effectively. the so i think the fact that the president has shown a lot of interest in that and general mattis as a former head of the central command. so he has an intimate knowledge of the issues there. i think america can make a difference and make that sort of bilateral effort to fight terrorism in yemen and in the rest of the arab world much more effective. so i think there's something substantive there. i wouldn't diminish the talk about, you know, putting together a group to fight terro...

About the irrelevance of nato was just that, its was talk to get elected and to lay out the notion that mutual defense in a very difficult environment is absolutely essential if we're going to increase our defense capabilities. it's really important reset takes place here, too, dara. >> ali with, we know this sa very different trip for president trump than for president obama. could you speak about that and tell us what the main differences that you are seeing and what the difference is going to be for saudi arabia and u.s. relations. >> i think the fundamental difference was that president ob...

Arena where he gets to say i have allies in the muslim world, we're working together, we agree, look at all my friends. that's the message that he's going to come out with. >> it will be an interesting nine days ahead of it. and then he moves on to israel and we'll see what happens there. so azi, thank you so much for being here. jonathan allen, great to have you. steve clemens, thanks for staying with us for these past two hours. ayman, great to have you weighing in on this situation, as well. and colonel jack jacobs, our military analyst, always a pleasure to have you here. ali, wonderful to...